Vernon Williams

Joined

• started 23 topics
• posted 573 times   see topics posted on
• send a message

Posts by Vernon Williams

• 
  108

  Hello everyone, first post.

  by Frjprice in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  hello, i just wanted to introduce myself to everyone here - as i will be posting here.. i grew up a jw and pioneered, was a ministerial servant, ect, i was in the organization for 17 years.

  i left and naturally my family did as they were told and cut off all communication with me.

  this left a horrible taste in my mouth for not just jw's, but any religion for that matter.

  1. 
  2. 
  3. 
• 

  Vernon Williams

  Father,

  I am not totally believing your story...

  Which Bishop ordained you?

  Where is the parish you are serving: town and name, please....

  Forgive me Father.....I smell a con, here.....

  Vernon Williams

  Monett, MO
• 
  34

  what about NOT making new friends...life as a hermit for most part

  by oompa in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  i actually saved a classified ad from an east coast paper that needed experienced crew on a 48' sailing yacht.

  i was at this town for my 10th wedding anniversary and staying at a nice b&b.

  this was back in april.

  1. 
  2. 
  3. 
• 

  Vernon Williams

  O,

  I wish I could go sailing...I never have....saw the movie "Wind" and the racing part was so cool...

  On another note: you mentioned JWs were "good" or something like that.

  Here is the base line:

  Almost ALL JWs will lie as a pledge of loyalty to the GB and, thus, they think, to God.

  At the bottom of their hearts they feel a justificaition to falsify information to please a man or men.

  You have removed yourself from the company of this type of person.

  That means your base line and their base line is ninety degress from each other: +

  You intersected with them once. In this universe, if the rules about lines are correct it was a one time encournter.

  Thankfully for you.

  V
• 
  36

  Shunned by my SIL the B........

  by AK - Jeff in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  shunning still hurts for me, i admit it.

  though i have no common ground with these people any longer, it is just the idea that i am treated as evil for nothing more than exiting the religion.

  i was in a chinese rest on wednesday.

  1. 
  2. 
  3. 
• 

  Vernon Williams

  Jeff,

  Shortly after being booted I was "shunned" by three brothers: I came home and told my family that these three had shunned me. Also, I said, there were two commonalities with the three:

  THEY HAD ALL BEEN DF'ED FOR ADULTRY

  and

  THEY WERE ALL SHUNNING ME BECAUSE I WAS A "TRUTH-TELLER.'

  Hey, bro, only in a cult would this kind of thing happen.

  Your experience: another "cost of freedom" debit on you tab.

  Hang tough and, seriously, you are in better company.....even including people like me. :-)

  Later,

  V
• 
  34

  what about NOT making new friends...life as a hermit for most part

  by oompa in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  i actually saved a classified ad from an east coast paper that needed experienced crew on a 48' sailing yacht.

  i was at this town for my 10th wedding anniversary and staying at a nice b&b.

  this was back in april.

  1. 
  2. 
  3. 
• 

  Vernon Williams

  O,

  On the "screw them" comment: I was not talking about your old JW friends: I was referencing the GB.

  V
• 
  47

  Did You Ever Think The Demons Were Bothering You?

  by minimus in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  when i was younger i used to have terrible convulsions and hear "voices".

  my mom was convinced that it must be "the demons".

  the congregation prayed over me and eventually i went to a doctor that was able to figure out why i was so sickly and presto: everyone's prayers were answered..

  1. 
  2. 
  3. 
• 

  Vernon Williams

  Looking back, only at JW meetings and various other times of WT association.

  V
• 
  31

  Christmas...pagan? or non-pagan?

  by FreedomFrog in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i just read a thread where one of the posters was saying christmas is not pagan.

  from my research and what i remember reading up on it, it was taken from the pagans.. let me explain.

  first, i apologize because i researched this about 4 years ago and i don't have all of my research material at hand.

  1. 
  2. 
  3. 
• 

  Vernon Williams

  Free,

  One of the first things my family did, after we were booted, was to celebrate Christmas. I am a Christmas junkie. Our little guy, Levi, and I wait for the first of December. The historic church has a "calander" of events all year and, if you follow it, the time leading up the the date chosen to remember the aniversary of the birth of our Lord is so rich in appreciation and love. The JWs poison the opportunity to enjoy this measure of spirtual refreshment.

  I just "puke out" on the WT slant on bringing condemnation to this "memorial" of the birth of Christ. That night, the angels sang. Heaven was interanaly and externaly in rapture over this miacle. Messiah had arrived!! What a night to remember! Can you imagine NOT setting aside a momment each year to consider God's blessing to mankind in this wonderous event??

  I can not.

  Our old buddy, "The Judge" could.

  I will stick with my position of rememberence and joyful appreciation.

  A few thoughts,

  V
• 
  34

  what about NOT making new friends...life as a hermit for most part

  by oompa in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  i actually saved a classified ad from an east coast paper that needed experienced crew on a 48' sailing yacht.

  i was at this town for my 10th wedding anniversary and staying at a nice b&b.

  this was back in april.

  1. 
  2. 
  3. 
• 

  Vernon Williams

  O,

  Of all the stabs in the back generated by the WT this is one of the final two (the other being a distrust of "religion.") The lack of association generated as a residual effect of WT association creates this "alone" situation that is negative and depressing.

  I, continually, encourage ex JWs to reach out in the community to "express" themselves in the myriads of ways that exist. Whether it is a group of amatuar astonomers or chess players, a biking club, a soup kitchen, reading programs, assistance to the elderly or poor....I mean the list is endless. As we associate with ones of like interest, relationships form and things improve.

  As ex JWs, we just sit in our own tears. The WT leadership knows this situation exists. If for no other reason than to "flip them off," go out and form friendships, have a good time, and just have fun. It is the ultimate insult to this group of emotional degenerates that one can engage in. Enjoying LIFE is the threat the Org fears the most. Happy ex JWs are the biggest threat.

  If we are sad or not progressing in personal growth or happiness, then, the GB is right: Life is not worth living without them.

  (Rare use of bad language ahead....)

  SCREW THEM!!!

  Go out and find the happiness that is there to be had....both for yourself and those that chose to inter-relate with you.

  Reach out. Reach up. Go for it....

  My two cents,

  V
• 
  24

  Do you think JW's grow and mature as they age?

  by megsmomma in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i ask because my ex, who is still a jw and my 9 year old's dad (hence the still knowing him part) hardley seems to change at all over the years.

  i do know he is now an elder....and he doesn't have time for much fun.

  (they are usually broke and busy with meetings, ect.

  1. 
  2. 
  3. 
• 

  Vernon Williams

  Spiritually, the WT keeps it's members, all thier lives, in a diaper....usually, a "pissy" one from the attitudes of most JWs. It is the means by which control is maintained...they will not go beyond the skirts of Mother Org.

  It is sad and sick.

  V
• 
  108

  Hello everyone, first post.

  by Frjprice in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  hello, i just wanted to introduce myself to everyone here - as i will be posting here.. i grew up a jw and pioneered, was a ministerial servant, ect, i was in the organization for 17 years.

  i left and naturally my family did as they were told and cut off all communication with me.

  this left a horrible taste in my mouth for not just jw's, but any religion for that matter.

  1. 
  2. 
  3. 
• 

  Vernon Williams

  Father,

  Greetings!

  Know this folks?

  Jeffery and Kathy Schwehm are the administrators of
  catholicxjw.com.
• 
  18

  better offf dead?

  by matt_holgate in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  ive been visiting for some time, but until now havent said much.

  i would appreciate some observations on the latest episode between me and my jw mother, like whether this is something i should ignore or try to resolve.. i was dfd at thirteen, five years ago, for being a gay atheist.

  i didnt become homeless only because my mother was/is ill with ms, we maintained a just workable relationship so that i could stay and help her look after herself.. the last three years relations became more tense as i began to piece together what had happened since she joined the org when i was about 3. she demanded yesterday to know why, and i let her have it.. i told her how fucking petrified of life i was as a kid, hearing about armageddon and the world.

  1. 
  2. 
  3. 
• 

  Vernon Williams

  One thing you will never regret is treating your mother with compassion and kindness: assisting as you can. I do not have a comment on your sexuality or your religious perspective: I do believe we should act and speak in a way that does not lay the basis for later regrets.

  Your mom is your mom. Love her, assist her, and try have empathy for her. Set the example in proper family behaviors.

  My take,

  V